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2rottieguy
Posted: Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:23:21 PM

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They are questioning the suspect.
news report

The dickens you say.
cuddles
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 9:38:21 AM

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Sad.

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Nancy
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:48:44 PM

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cuddles wrote:
Sad.


This also kind of scary. Criminals usually work their way up to kidnapping, so I imagine this is not his first assault. The fact that he brought her to his home suggests that he may also have intended to kill her. Otherwise, she could have led police right to him. She's very lucky she got away from him and she's a real heroine for taking the steps necessary to stop this guy from hurting anyone else.

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2rottieguy
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:20:10 PM

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What is really screwy is that WTMJ radio is the only news outlet that I have seen this rerported. I would think at the least Wauwatosa now would have had something in it about this.

The dickens you say.
Anna
Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:32:19 PM

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Well JS has been reporting on it since Sunday. Here's the update.

Very weird. The 48-year-old perp is from Brookfield, the girl is from the Falls but the assault took place in an apartment near 111th and Meineke. Very creepy.
cuddles
Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:06:42 AM

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Whose apartment was it? His?

Sadly, I am not surprised this stuff goes on around here.

Don't outsmart your common sense.
Tine
Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:00:08 AM

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cuddles wrote:
Whose apartment was it? His?

Sadly, I am not surprised this stuff goes on around here.


I wondered about the apartment, too.

But what place do you think there is that stuff like that DOESN'T go on?
cuddles
Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:40:07 AM

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Tine wrote:
cuddles wrote:
Whose apartment was it? His?

Sadly, I am not surprised this stuff goes on around here.


I wondered about the apartment, too.

But what place do you think there is that stuff like that DOESN'T go on?


I think sometimes we underestimate the power of gossip in a small town. When there are bad people in a small town everyone knows them and what they are up to, so things like this don't always happen over and over before someone gets caught. I don't know my neighbors other than who has the super friendly black lab or the really cute two year old. I can tell you what everyone did last weekend in my parents' small town. We were visiting (my mom had surgery), so we got to be the main attraction...for good or bad. I got to read about the two meth busts that were the talk of the town. One was a parent who turned their kid in.

Not to say, bad things don't happen in small towns. Bad stuff happens everywhere. When a community is so connected to each other and actually cares about each other, it deters crime. I see that more in the small towns we have had the opportunity to live in. Mobilizing 4,000 people is a lot easier than mobilizing 60,000 for a common cause.

Don't outsmart your common sense.
Nancy
Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:29:52 AM

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cuddles wrote:
Tine wrote:
cuddles wrote:
Whose apartment was it? His?

Sadly, I am not surprised this stuff goes on around here.


I wondered about the apartment, too.

But what place do you think there is that stuff like that DOESN'T go on?


I think sometimes we underestimate the power of gossip in a small town. When there are bad people in a small town everyone knows them and what they are up to, so things like this don't always happen over and over before someone gets caught. I don't know my neighbors other than who has the super friendly black lab or the really cute two year old. I can tell you what everyone did last weekend in my parents' small town. We were visiting (my mom had surgery), so we got to be the main attraction...for good or bad. I got to read about the two meth busts that were the talk of the town. One was a parent who turned their kid in.

Not to say, bad things don't happen in small towns. Bad stuff happens everywhere. When a community is so connected to each other and actually cares about each other, it deters crime. I see that more in the small towns we have had the opportunity to live in. Mobilizing 4,000 people is a lot easier than mobilizing 60,000 for a common cause.


There's plenty of crime, including recurring crime like sexual abuse of children and even murder, in small towns. I've lived in small towns. There may be fewer people in small towns, but they tend to live farther apart than they do in a city and they don't necessarily stick their noses in their neighbors' business. Ed Gein lived in a town of less than 1,000. So did Ted Kazinsky. There was a horrific murder, kidnapping and torture case in Portage; a town of less than 10,000, last year.

People who commit crimes like this one are good at hiding them. They're sociopaths. They're adept at manipulating people including friendly, nosy neighbors. The response "He seemed like such a nice guy." is so common it's a cliche. This guy lived in an apartment building with neighbors just a few inches away and people coming and going all the time and he managed to smuggle a kidnapped girl into the building and rape her without anyone knowing about it. That didn't happen because his neighbors didn't know enough about him. It happened because he planned it well enough that he didn't get caught until she escaped.

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cuddles
Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:40:23 AM

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Nancy wrote:
cuddles wrote:
Tine wrote:
cuddles wrote:
Whose apartment was it? His?

Sadly, I am not surprised this stuff goes on around here.


I wondered about the apartment, too.

But what place do you think there is that stuff like that DOESN'T go on?


I think sometimes we underestimate the power of gossip in a small town. When there are bad people in a small town everyone knows them and what they are up to, so things like this don't always happen over and over before someone gets caught. I don't know my neighbors other than who has the super friendly black lab or the really cute two year old. I can tell you what everyone did last weekend in my parents' small town. We were visiting (my mom had surgery), so we got to be the main attraction...for good or bad. I got to read about the two meth busts that were the talk of the town. One was a parent who turned their kid in.

Not to say, bad things don't happen in small towns. Bad stuff happens everywhere. When a community is so connected to each other and actually cares about each other, it deters crime. I see that more in the small towns we have had the opportunity to live in. Mobilizing 4,000 people is a lot easier than mobilizing 60,000 for a common cause.


There's plenty of crime, including recurring crime like sexual abuse of children and even murder, in small towns. I've lived in small towns. There may be fewer people in small towns, but they tend to live farther apart than they do in a city and they don't necessarily stick their noses in their neighbors' business. Ed Gein lived in a town of less than 1,000. So did Ted Kazinsky. There was a horrific murder, kidnapping and torture case in Portage; a town of less than 10,000, last year.

People who commit crimes like this one are good at hiding them. They're sociopaths. They're adept at manipulating people including friendly, nosy neighbors. The response "He seemed like such a nice guy." is so common it's a cliche. This guy lived in an apartment building with neighbors just a few inches away and people coming and going all the time and he managed to smuggle a kidnapped girl into the building and rape her without anyone knowing about it. That didn't happen because his neighbors didn't know enough about him. It happened because he planned it well enough that he didn't get caught until she escaped.


Ok. You are right. Bad people do bad things everywhere...small towns, big towns, everywhere.

Don't outsmart your common sense.
actress
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:50:57 PM

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This discussion has apparently run its course, and I agree the guy's a perv, but have we considered that it was not an abduction as such? It is a crime, but we don't know that the troubled girl didn't go along willingly and then change her mind. It's disgusting either way.
Nancy
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:56:56 PM

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actress wrote:
This discussion has apparently run its course, and I agree the guy's a perv, but have we considered that it was not an abduction as such? It is a crime, but we don't know that the troubled girl didn't go along willingly and then change her mind. It's disgusting either way.


Not much more to say until additional information has been released.

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sinissippigal
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:42:33 PM

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Here's the latest:
Brookfield man charged with sexual assault of Falls teen
By Jesse Garza of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: March 10, 2010 6:22 p.m. |(1) Comments

A 48-year-old Brookfield man has been charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl he met at a Menomonee Falls gas station.

According to a copy of a criminal complaint, Sunil K. Singh talked the Menomonee Falls girl her into getting into a car Saturday before getting her drunk, groping her and driving to an apartment building in the 11000 block of W. Meinecke Ave. in Wauwatosa.

According to the complaint, Singh threatened to kill the girl before dragging her by the wrist into the basement of the building, where he beat her and forced her into sex.

The girl managed to escape to a nearby apartment, where a resident called police.

Singh admitted to police that he provided the girl with alcohol, had sex with her and slapped her several times to keep her from crying.

Bail was set at $150,000 for Singh, who was in custody Wednesday in the Milwaukee County Jail, according to online jail records.

Tine
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:46:37 PM

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actress wrote:
This discussion has apparently run its course, and I agree the guy's a perv, but have we considered that it was not an abduction as such? It is a crime, but we don't know that the troubled girl didn't go along willingly and then change her mind. It's disgusting either way.


A 14 year old girl isn't legally able to give this kind of consent, even if she says yes. I think bringing up the whole notion that this is just one of those girls who changes her mind is troubling. Do you believe that's something that happens a lot in rape cases?
sinissippigal
Posted: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:55:54 PM

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Here's a much more graphic description from the TMJ4 website:

MILWAUKEE - The Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office charged a Brookfield man Wednesday with kidnapping and raping a 14 year-old girl.

Sunil K. Singh, 48, faces two counts of second degree sexual assault of a child and one count of child enticement.

According to a criminal complaint, Singh met his alleged victim at a gas station in Menomonee Falls and talked her into getting into his car. Whenever the girl "made mention of possibly leaving the car, [Singh] stated that if she left he was going to kill her."

Once they reached an apartment complex in Wauwatosa, Singh then allegedly made the girl strip naked and then "threw her on her back on the concrete floor."

"[She] told him, 'I don't want to do this.' The defendant responded, 'I don't care, I just want to do this.' "

Singh then allegedly got on top of the girl and had sex with her, then forced her to perform oral sex on him twice.

The girl was able to run away and called police from a nearby apartment.

If he is convicted on all three charges against him, Singh faces a maximum sentence of 105 years in prison.

I think this guy's going to prison for a long time...or at least hopefully he will.
Anna
Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:36:52 AM

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Thank you Tine. This is a kid we're talking about. It appears Mr. Singh has a checkered past and has been caught doing something disorderly before but with two other girls/women. In this instance about three years ago, Mr. Singh was ordered to have no contact with the females and was ordered to serve jail time. He was found guilty by a jury trial but only after putting the court through numerous delays in his request for an interpreter. Here's one court record.

It looks like this apartment building was his former residence. I think there is more to this guy's past than reflected in this court record. My heart goes out to the girl and her family.
2rottieguy
Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:10:29 AM

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Concrete floor sounds like a basement. He may have had a old key that got him in the door to use the basement but not individual apartments. Hope he gets all the time due him if he is convicted.

The dickens you say.
Ted Anthony
Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:36:45 PM
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I was watching the report on this on Fox 6 last night and heard something very interesting about this case. Did you hear why he drove the girl from the Falls to Tosa?
Nancy
Posted: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:01:05 PM

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Ted Anthony wrote:
I was watching the report on this on Fox 6 last night and heard something very interesting about this case. Did you hear why he drove the girl from the Falls to Tosa?


Here's a link to the report. He told her that there were no police in Wauwatosa. That's ridiculous. They may not be patrolling his neighborhood regularly, but there are police here. I see them all the time. When I've needed to call the police, they responded really fast...much faster than Milwaukee.

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-100310-tosa-assault-charges,0,3347073.story

I'm thinking maybe he told her that so she'd think she wouldn't be able to get help. He took her to an unfamiliar place where she didn't know anybody. That's probably the real reason he took her away from Menominee Falls to a building that he knew well because he'd lived there.

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Ted Anthony
Posted: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:20:31 AM
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I hope you are right Nancy. This does concern me. This is why I get upset when people are critical of the police and when people protect or feel sorry for criminals. I would like the Tosa police to have a slight heavy hand to them and not be scared to do their job just for this reason. I don't want criminals and weirdos like this guy to think Tosa is a "free for all" playground. I want the kids safe. I want my kid safe.

Nancy wrote:
Ted Anthony wrote:
I was watching the report on this on Fox 6 last night and heard something very interesting about this case. Did you hear why he drove the girl from the Falls to Tosa?


Here's a link to the report. He told her that there were no police in Wauwatosa. That's ridiculous. They may not be patrolling his neighborhood regularly, but there are police here. I see them all the time. When I've needed to call the police, they responded really fast...much faster than Milwaukee.

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-100310-tosa-assault-charges,0,3347073.story

I'm thinking maybe he told her that so she'd think she wouldn't be able to get help. He took her to an unfamiliar place where she didn't know anybody. That's probably the real reason he took her away from Menominee Falls to a building that he knew well because he'd lived there.
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