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JiveTurkey
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:06:33 AM

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I rode my bike past the stadium and saw the tosa east football team was practicing there. I stopped by to look at it. I'm not sure at all what they spent 4 million dollars on. The new bleachers are basically like the old bleachers with a few more railings for safety. Otherwise, the tennis courts look the same, the track is wider and the field is fake. Same old concession stand and the same old score board - you'd think for 4 million, they could at least get a new score board.

It is in no way anymore desirable for someone to use than it was before. It is not going to generate any interest in additional events besides what already plays there. I wonder if even Pius or East soccer will return.

The recent Milwaukee Magazine has an article about Mequon replacing their field with turf. They spent $400,000.

...I'm not here to make things better, only to observe and pass judgement.
TosaII
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:44:04 PM

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I read the same article in the Milwaukee Magazine. I think the school mentioned paid 450,000 for a turf field and am wondering how we added costs to reach 4 million. I'd like to see a schedule that shows how many more teams we have brought in to this wondrous venue and how it makes it all worth our money. Doesn't' anyone else find this odd?
Foonchy
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:58:40 PM

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Boondoggle.

Can we get a similar effort to beautify our North Ave business corridor (minus the fake grass)?
CindySue
Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:54:34 PM
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Gee, this makes me sit back and scratch my head. Wasn't it Didier who pushed to make this 'investment' happen. Wasn't it done after questions were raised about the conditions of underground water and sewer pipes? Wasn't it Donegan who did a BIG rollover and voted in favor of Hart Park's improvement while still noting pipes needed to be fixed? Seems to me most of the council members noted those concerns and yet still voted to ignore fixing sewers. I find this interesting reading.

I remember reading about this a year or so ago either in this paper or in the JS. It's not a new problem.
TosaII
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:50:41 AM

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What about the fact that the track won't be open for runners to use on weekends until 8am? And then I can't even have my power drink and a smoke when I'm done! Devil
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/53694247.html
Ted Anthony
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:56:12 AM
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This does sound a little odd? I know they added a new larger booth new grass that I just learned the school paid for and it seems like they added some tennis courts too? Correct? I noticed the stands are only on the west side of the stadium. Will the east side get stands too like it was before? Is this 4 mil in work? Maybe I am missing something?
JiveTurkey
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:35:45 AM

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Ted Anthony wrote:
This does sound a little odd? I know they added a new larger booth new grass that I just learned the school paid for and it seems like they added some tennis courts too? Correct? I noticed the stands are only on the west side of the stadium. Will the east side get stands too like it was before? Is this 4 mil in work? Maybe I am missing something?

I noticed that the east side didn't have any bleachers also. Maybe we ran out of money and need another 4 million to do the other side. That would be the visitors side...they can just bring their lawn chairs for now.

...I'm not here to make things better, only to observe and pass judgement.
JiveTurkey
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:38:38 AM

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TosaII wrote:
What about the fact that the track won't be open for runners to use on weekends until 8am? And then I can't even have my power drink and a smoke when I'm done! Devil
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/53694247.html

After you read the article, the artificial turf sure sounds fragile. Maybe we should have just stuck with grass just like God intended for outdoor sports to be played on....

...I'm not here to make things better, only to observe and pass judgement.
2rottieguy
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:11:04 PM

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TosaII wrote:
What about the fact that the track won't be open for runners to use on weekends until 8am? And then I can't even have my power drink and a smoke when I'm done! Devil
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/53694247.html


I could never figure out the no smoking in a open air stadium. I remember when County stadium did that. No one observed it at the time..

The dickens you say.
Nancy
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:41:41 PM

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2rottieguy wrote:
TosaII wrote:
What about the fact that the track won't be open for runners to use on weekends until 8am? And then I can't even have my power drink and a smoke when I'm done! Devil
http://www.wauwatosanow.com/news/53694247.html


I could never figure out the no smoking in a open air stadium. I remember when County stadium did that. No one observed it at the time..


Some smoking regulations make no sense. This is one of them.

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Gas Pains
Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2009 5:01:43 PM

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I like the facility and don't mind investing in things that improve the quality of life for our community.

How would you like it if I lit-up a big 'ol Dominican while you were watching the game?

You would probably say - That sure doesn't improve my quality of life.

Take your smokes somewhere else.

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2rottieguy
Posted: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:13:47 AM

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If you wanted to light up in an open air stadium I would not have a problem with that. If you were rude and blew your smoke in peoples faces that is a different story.

The dickens you say.
JiveTurkey
Posted: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43:36 AM

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Gas Pains wrote:
I like the facility and don't mind investing in things that improve the quality of life for our community.

Does it improve the quality of life in our community and if so, how??? Before we had a football field, stadium, track and tennis courts and after $4 million we have a football field, stadium, track and tennis courts. What we don't have is a finished park.

...I'm not here to make things better, only to observe and pass judgement.
2rottieguy
Posted: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:51:52 PM

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JiveTurkey wrote:
Gas Pains wrote:
I like the facility and don't mind investing in things that improve the quality of life for our community.

Does it improve the quality of life in our community and if so, how??? Before we had a football field, stadium, track and tennis courts and after $4 million we have a football field, stadium, track and tennis courts. What we don't have is a finished park.


You do have to admit all the things you said we had were in a pretty bad state of disrepair.

The dickens you say.
JiveTurkey
Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:18:00 PM

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2rottieguy wrote:
You do have to admit all the things you said we had were in a pretty bad state of disrepair.

I agree, but they were only in that state because the city refused to maintain it properly. I don't have an issue with some updates, but we spent more than most other similar projects other school systems did and we didn't even get new lockers rooms or a modern concession stand. When money is tight and we should try to make a $ go as far as it can, our leaders seemed like they took the exact opposite stance...

...I'm not here to make things better, only to observe and pass judgement.
rubber
Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 3:44:50 PM

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Where I come from... the "booster club" (parents and alumni) paid for press box updates, stadium upgrades, etc...

Was there any non-city support that went into this?
doughboy
Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:20:20 PM

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rubber wrote:
Where I come from... the "booster club" (parents and alumni) paid for press box updates, stadium upgrades, etc...


The band and athletic boosters reinvest the money they make from concessions back into the band and sports programs.

rubber wrote:
Was there any non-city support that went into this?


A small amount of money was raised by selling bleachers. http://buyableacher.org/

Kind of a joke.
He-hate-me
Posted: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:01:29 PM

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"...where did the money go????"

Maybe someone put this guy in charge!



naturalselection
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:58:21 AM

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Seriously, it's done? I didn't think they were even close yet...but this is just an observation from State St. And I had no idea the tennis courts were new. Everything looks the same to me. Maybe Hart Park is the Emperor's New Park.
rubber
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:16:38 AM

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Maybe it was $400,000 not $4,000,000.

We rode our bikes on the trail Sunday but I forgot to look for lighted tennis courts. Any chance the new courts have lights?

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